Hisham el-Batal, a political analyst from the restive Egyptian capital city of Cairo, has joined Press TVs Debate program to share his thoughts on the continued clashes between pro- and anti-Morsi protesters in the country.
What follows is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV:Mr. al-Batal, we have our guest earlier in the program saying that the way forward right for the political process would be for an agreement to be reached and the political process to go forward.
I asked him earlier how can this happen when we have got the pro-Morsi rallies taking place? What do you think is the solution that would also include the Morsi supporters or the Muslim Brotherhood in the political process?
The question is what is the way out of this? I mean the possibility of reinstatement, do you think that is a real possibility? I mean a lot of people are now saying that bringing Morsi back to power is now not even remotely possible. Do you think that it is still possible?
Batal:Yes, that is still possible and that will represent a very good exit of the trauma that the whole Egypt was put in by the coup because people are not willing to leave the streets and millions of people are gathering every day in several governorates of Egypt to protest the coup and to protest the bloody practices now being in place in Egypt.
People think or see that the Egyptian police have been very wild like it was three years ago or even wilder and the Egyptian authorities or the coup authorities are practicing methodical violence against people, arresting people, even there were rumors yesterday that a very large number of army officers are being detained in the military prison for not supporting the coup.
So things in Egypt are going to explode more than we can see now and the massacres committed by the military coup authorities are increasing everyday and that is a sign of weakness by the way, it is seen as a sign of weakness by the people here in Egypt...
Press TV:Mr. Batal, you are saying that you think that reinstatement of Morsi is possible, you are saying that the demands that the ralliers have been making are legitimate demands, but looking at the reality of the situation, how can that happen? I mean with the continued demonstrations on the streets, is this going to change anything? Are these kinds of demonstrations going to...
Batal:The demonstrations on the streets are taking a very dangerous curve those (these) days and are being tactically managed by people, who I do not believe belong to the Muslim Brotherhood organically..., demonstrating in front of places which are not usual for demonstrations, keeping the pressure in the streets, which yesterday for example the Cairo International Airport was surrounded by protesters, the pro-democracy protesters and that led to the massacre yesterday.
One more thing, I think that those people, the protesters, pro-democracy protesters, are escalating against the coup authorities; in one very strange step yesterday they went into a rally to surround the American embassy in Cairo which I consider an unprecedented step. That will of course lead to escalating things in Egypt because people here in Egypt..., a statistic today was issued saying that 63 percent of the Egyptians are against the coup.
Press TV:Well, the question here for a lot of people is, if there is more violence in Egypt as a result of these demonstrations, we are going to see, you know, you say, we have seen the crackdown take place, if these kinds of demonstrations, these kinds of oppositions continue on the streets it is inevitably, they say, going to be more violent, that will only create an unstable Egypt and allow those with other agendas for Egypt to step in.
Batal:I agree with that, but the people, like we can say today, according to the statistics issued today, that 63 percent of the Egyptians..., are against the coup and therefore they think that the United States is supporting the military coup in Egypt and the coup authorities, according to tactical or strategic calculations, depend on two things, on the military and it being together and on the United States on the other hand.
The United States..., yesterday, one (a) leader of the Freedom and Justice Party of the Muslim Brotherhood called the Egyptian people to surround the American embassy, that means that they want the American embassy..., the people are angry against (with) the Americans here in Egypt which might lead to further threatening of the American interests in the region.